.400 CorBon
Everything
You Ever Wanted To Know
Written and Contributed By Peter Jordan
The new 400 Corbon is a drop-in barrel replacement for
45 caliber pistols. The 45/400 Corbon combo actually gives more versatility
than the 40s&w/ 357Sig combo. I say this because you can shoot supersonic
rounds with both the 40s&w and the 357Sig. But with the 45, you can
shoot really large, fat, subsonic bullets that produce excellent momentum
for maximum knock down power (with the flexibility of using a silencer);
or you can shoot lighter supersonic rounds in the new 400 Corbon format,
to give maximum knock down power at the other end of the spectrum, using
very high energy and lighter bullets. You have a bullet range of 135 grains
to 300 grains!
I need to mention one thing before continuing. I personally
know a few 10mm fans who don't like the 400 Corbon because the 10mm can
do everything the new 400 Corbon can do. So it appears that the 10mm is
getting snubbed again; it happened once before with the 40S&W introduction
because the 40 could fit into smaller frame guns. Now all of a sudden,
there is a new drop-in barrel that simulates a 10mm for the huge flock
of 45 owners and you don't even have to buy another gun in the process.
I have heard some people claim that the shorter 45 case can feed a little
better and even faster than the longer 10mm round; but this is second hand
information at best. All I can say is that Colt and Glock are still supporting
the 10mm and it is probably the most versatile SINGLE CALIBER of all, from
light to heavy loads, from stopping bad guys to being a great back-up trail
gun. Glock has even made history by coming out with their 10mm compact,
the Glock 29 be mid 1997.
Now back to the 400 Corbon.....
As of January 1997, Starline beefed up the 400 Corbon
brass, even though it wasn't really necessary; the brass weighs about 10
grains more now -- aprox 94.5 grains, compared to the older brass weighing
in at around 84 grains. The tough bottle-necked case of the 400 Corbon,
in conjunction with the new modern 400 Corbon barrel standard, can handle
full power Corbon factory loads (using powder unavailable to reloaders),
with pressures up to 26,500 psi. One of Corbon's goals was simply to match
10mm specs with the 135 grain bullet, not necessarily to supercharge it
beyond those specs. In this way the 45 Auto can be used without making
major changes; just drop in a barrel.
In fact, the standard .45 has two SAAMI standards: 21000
psi for standard loads, and 25000 psi for .45+ loads. The top full-power
factory 400 Corbon loads just slightly exceed the .45+ standard. It should
be noted that most of the starting 400 Corbon loads with a 5" barrel still
make the IPSC Major Power Factor, even without stressing the caliber's
upper limits.
A Corbon rep told me that they gave the 400 Corbon to
the market and have no patents on this cartridge whatsoever. Eventually,
someone with several thousand dollars may even have SAAMI set a standard
for it. Since Corbon is not a member of SAAMI, I doubt if Corbon will make
the effort. But since the 400 Corbon is beginning to generate momentum,
and some gun companies like Olympic Arms and AMT are making pistols for
this new cartridge, and along with all the barrel makers furnishing 400
Corbon barrels, someone might get together to legitimize this new cartridge
yet.
I ran into a Glock Rep at the end of February, in Portland,
OR. He stated that Glock was not only coming out with a 357 Sig, but also
the 400 Corbon. We'll see .....
Corbon markets a 135 grain 40/10mm bullet that is pushed
to 1450 fps according to the ammo box --- not bad for a low pressure 45
huh? It's somewhat like having a 45 and a 10mm in one gun. The 400 Corbon
is a unique supersonic round since it uses a pressure ceiling of only 26,500
psi.
I've started getting some reports that the 400 Corbon
makes a great hunting pistol, especially as a back-up trail gun. But that's
probably an article that someone else can write when more data comes in.
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Personal 400 Corbon Experience:
I put a Bar-Sto 400 Corbon barrel into a Colt .45 Gold
cup, along with a 20 lb recoil spring. I must say that the perceived recoil
was similar to the typical hotter .45 loads I've shot -- a little snappy
but manageable. I have not had the opportunity yet to shoot this new round
in 150, 155, or 165 grain loadings. This is a fun caliber to shoot since
it has a real head turning roar, and appears to be quite accurate. I have
not had even one mis-feed or ejection problem while shooting the 400 Corbon
round; this alone makes it very enticing.
A new unfired 400 Corbon cartridge had a lower brass diameter
of .472. After firing it, the brass expanded to only .475 in the Bar-Sto
barrel. This is quite excellent, especially since I was using an unramped
Colt barrel. Even though I shot full power loads, the fired brass was still
within trim specs.
I'm also getting a 3.78" 400 Corbon barrel made for my
Glock 30, hopefully in early August '97.
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Fact Sheet from Corbon:
1. "The 400 Corbon brings the veteran .45 into the next
century with increased velocity and lighter bullet weights." This new caliber
is a 45 necked down to a 40.
2. "The distinctive bottleneck cartridge provides additional
case capacity, improved feeding, and with headspacing off the shoulder,
a tighter bullet crimp can be used to get more efficient powder burning."
3. I don't know which pistol the following chronograph
info came from. My guess is a 5" 1911 barrel with a Glock 21 4.6" barrel
not far behind in velocity:
135 JHP 1450 fps 630 ft/lbs 197 power factor
155 Bonded HP 1330 fps 608 ft/lbs 206 power factor
165 JHP 1300 fps 581 ft/lbs 214 power factor
180 JHP 1200 fps (not advertised by Corbon anymore)
Note: These are the bullet weights recommended by Corbon,
although I have heard of others experimenting with heavier bullets with
good results. Some have even experimented successfully with using very
hard lead cast bullets, though Corbon recommends using only jacketed bullets.
I can't help wondering if Corbon stopped marketing the 180 grain load because
it had no significant velocity advantage over their 185 grain +45 round
which pushes a bullet at 1150 fps.
4. "The performance level of this new cartridge rivals
the time honored 357 Magnum or the hottest loads in the 10mm." That's a
quote.
5. Peter Pi states "The 400 Corbon is a logical selection
for federal agencies and special operations forces. I also think that the
competition shooters will adopt this round rapidly for IPSC major class
matches. Its design is sure to appeal to the officer that likes the control
and feel of the standard .45 ACP, but is looking for a round that has the
added velocity necessary to make the modern hollow point bullet work effectively."
The new IDPA, International Defensive Pistol Association, actually lists
the 400 Corbon as one of the legitimate rounds to use in their Enhanced
Service Pistol Division.
6. "Availability of components is a key criteria for a
cartridge to become successful. Pi ... instead concentrated on developing
an improved cartridge using existing components."
7. There is a huge number of quality .45ACP guns available,
with custom gun smiths working on the .45's probably more than any other
caliber.
8. "The 400 Corbon maintains the same chamber pressures
as the 45 ACP +P, and thus does not need special modifications to the springs
or guide rods." Most 45's can be converted with a simple drop in barrel
change.
9. The brochure states that major firearm manufacturers
are already committed to marketing the barrel conversions and complete
guns.
10. Reamers and head space gauges are being manufactured
by JGS and Clymer. Dies are available from RCBS, Hornady, and Tombstone.
Starline is now manufacturing 400 Corbon brass. You can also get a $45
cannulure tool from CH Tool & Die to make sure you have the strongest
possible crimp.
11. Advantages: a. added velocity and power for encounters
on the open highway.
c. IPSC shooters claim that the added velocity and lighter
bullets.
increases scores by reducing the reaction time.
(Call Corbon if you want your name added to their list)
Barrels and conversions:
Accu-Match
Les Baer Custom Inc.
Nowlin
Bar-Sto Precision Machine
Jarvis Gunsmithing
Clark Custom Guns
SSK Industries
Olympic Arms
CH Tool & Die -- cannulure tool
Die sets:
RCBS
SSK IND
Hornady
Tombstone -- Carbide die set - PH: 602-905-7013
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RELOADING:
I received some 400 Corbon reloading data in the mail
from Corbon. I'm printing it here, but I take NO responsibility for typos
or inaccurate data. Use at your own risk. Call Corbon to get an official
copy for yourself (800-626-7266).
With a 5" barrel, even the starting loads are close to,
or exceed, the IPSC Major Power Factor of 175. The Power Factor for the
Enhanced Service Pistol Division of IDPA is only 125.
TEST gun: Les Baer - Premier II 5" barrel, Brass: Starline,
Primer: CCI primer
135 JHP Starting Maximum
------- grains velocity P.F. grains velocity P.F.
------- -------- -------- ----- ------- -------- -----
Winchester WAP 10.0 1260 170 11.0 1400 189
Winchester WSF 8.5 1200 9.8 1325
Winchester 540 12.0 1300 176 12.7 1400 189
Hodgdon HS-6 11.5 1240 12.5 1350
Hodgdon Universal Clays 8.2 1260 9.0 1400
Vihtavuori N-340 8.5 1300 9.7 1400
150/155 JHP Starting Maximum
------- grains velocity *P.F. grains velocity *P.F.
------- -------- -------- ----- ------- -------- -----
Winchester WAP 9.8 1225 184 10.5 1310 197
Winchester WSF 7.8 1150 8.2 125
Accurate Arms AA #7 13.0 1250 187 14.0 1300 195
Vihtavuori N-105 11.2 1150 12.0 1250
*Power factors in this section are based on the lighter 150 grain bullet.
165 JHP Starting Maximum
------- grains velocity P.F. grains velocity P.F.
------- -------- -------- ----- ------- -------- -----
Winchester WSF 7.6 1050 173 8.2 1150 190
Vihtavuori N-105 10.5 1125 186 11.2 1250 206
Accurate Arms AA #5 9.0 1025 10.0 1200
Corbon states that they use powders that are NOT available
in canisters for reloading. So their factory loads have slightly higher
velocities:
Corbon 135 gr jhp 1450 fps 630 ft/lbs 195 P.F.
Corbon 155 gr jhp 1330 fps 608 ft/lbs 206 P.F.
Corbon 165 gr jhp 1300 fps 581 ft/lbs 214 P.F.
Corbon 180 gr jhp 1200 fps (not advertised by Corbon anymore)
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The Following Quotes are from the Corbon brochure:
It was the goal of designer Peter Pi to make this cartridge
design simple and functional. For most guns a simple drop-in barrel is
all that is needed to convert a .45ACP to the 400 Corbon. It is possible
to make the 400 Corbon from existing .45ACP brass, however formed brass
with the correct headstamp is available from Starline and is recommended.
This is especially true since the newer beefed up 400 Corbon brass from
Starline is now available.
"Because the 400 Corbon headspaces off the shoulder, it
is important to maintain a distance from the base to shoulder midpoint
(datum line), of min .717", max .725". This dimension should be monitored
carefully throughout the forming or sizing process. We suggest that a tight
bullet crimp be used. A roll crimp gives a much more effective hold than
a taper crimp and is highly recommended. It is usually not necessary to
bell out the case mouth for bullet seating. Excessive belling of the case
mouth may make it difficult to maintain a strong tension on the bullet
when crimping. Overall length of finished cartridge should be no longer
than 1.225".
If you're not into the above method of measuring the base
to shoulder midpoint, the overall brass length should stay within the range
of .895 to .900 in length. One person stated that he fired the 400 Corbon
brass nine times without needing to trim the brass. Never reuse brass beyond
safe limits. One reloding book I read stated that you should check the
brass after each firing and that you can possibly use it up to eight times,
but to throw it away if you are in doubt. Picking up brass on the range
can be hazardous since you don't know the history of that brass. The brass
is the weak part of the gun and it is always best to use caution when reloading.
A little extra work is required since the 400 Corbon is
bottle necked. You must first do a quick light spray lube of the brass,
before starting the reloading process. And at the end of the process, you
must wipe off the lube, or as an alternative, tumble dry the brass for
about 10 minutes. The bright side of lubing is that my Dillon press runs
smoother and the Over-All-Length of the cartridges have much tighter specs
-- usually within 5/1000 deviation, instead of the normal 5/1000 to 12/1000
deviation when using unlubed cases, although inconsistent bullet shapes
can also cause deviations.
For bottle necked cases, you have to always check for
trim length as well as lube the brass before reloading; this is generally
blasphemy for straight- walled pistol reloaders, but a true art form for
the initiated. Gun companies who don't like reloaded ammo in their guns,
should flock to the new 400 Corbon and 357 Sig calibers since there is
a better chance that not as many pistol shooters will want to reload bottle
necked cartridges.
I also recommend expanding the brass as little as possible
so the bullet just barely fits in. I found that a very light bell expansion
is necessary or else there is a tendency to collapse the brass. Use a firm
roll crimp to lightly indent the bullet with a very visible crimp ring.
If a carbide resizer is used, you do not need any lube inside the neck,
which will also help the bullet from slipping. You only have a little over
1/8" of case surface to grab the bullet. Make sure you use a bullet that
can withstand supersonic speeds, such as full metal jacketed bullets.
Lastly, I like to do a thumb pressure test (pushing on
the primer end with the thumb while the bullet end is on a hard surface).
You want to make sure the bullet is well seated and does not slip into
the case, which could cause severe over-pressure conditions. Another test
you can do is to load a magazine and then use the full force of the slide
going forward to cycle all the bullets through your gun, without pulling
the trigger OF COURSE. Measure the before and after Over All Length, to
make sure the bullets are not slipping into the case. Do this test a few
times to really make sure.
Once your die set is set up, an occasional double check
of your cartridge measurements and thumb pressure test is all that is necessary,
to make sure the cartridges stay within specs.
Corbon recommends ordering a cannulure tool from CH Tool
& Die (about $45) in order to assure a firm bullet crimp, although
with the new improved 400 Corbon brass as of January '97, the cannulure
tool is not necessarily needed. It's up to you. It might depend on the
die set brand you are using. The Tombstone carbide die set I use, seems
to get the bullet crimp tight enough, although the crimp die is screwed
all the way down so it just barely touches the Dillon shell plate, which
is the same exact setting for the resizer die!
"The 400 Corbon is a new cartridge design. While extensive
testing has been done by Corbon Bullet Co., it has not been possible to
test these loads in guns and/or barrels manufactured by all companies.
It is extremely important that you begin with the starting loads and test
these loads in your gun. Estimated chamber pressure for these loads was
obtained by an Oehler Research Model 43 and appropriate test barrels."
Note: A Corbon rep told me that they test all their ammo with actual production
guns, like Glock, etc.
Calling Corbon, 800-626-7266, can give you information
of where to buy die sets, brass, head space gauges, and reamers, as well
as give you a listing of gunsmiths and custom gun manufacturers. I have
personally ordered Starline brass, Tombstones's Carbide 3 die set, a Bar-Sto
barrel.
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Summary
As mentioned above, the .45 pistol now has the flexibility
of using big, fat subsonic bullets to produce maximum momentum or lighter
supersonic bullets that produce a powerful energy sting. The 40S&W/357Sig
combo is really excellent for small to medium size auto frames, while the
45/400 Corbon combo is excellent on medium to large frames.
The new ParaOrdnance P1045 is a new auto showing off a
subcompact 45 (10 + 1 rounds; 24 oz alloy, 31 oz all-steel) in a package
size somewhat equivalent to the Glock 26/27; and there is the even smaller
AMT 45 and 400 Corbon Backup (5.7" long, 4.1" high, 1" thick; 5 + 1 rounds).
So the .45 pistols seem to be encroaching on the small to medium pistol
market now! Smith & Wesson has come out with the inexpensive compact
457 .45 caliber. The Glock 30 45 compact (6.77" long, 4.75" high standard
or 4.45" high optional, 24 oz) is hitting the market in March of '97. And
it looks like H&K will be coming out with a single stack compact .45
later in '97 or early '98. Glock will even start producing factory compensated
pistols soon, which should alleviate the concern of perceived-recoil sensitive
shooters. In fact, I can't tell much difference in recoil between a 40
and 45 in general; maybe it's because the 40's tend to be on slightly smaller
frames, or that the 40 recoil has a kind of sharper intense feel to it.
As you can see from this 'yet another new cartridge',
the 400 Corbon may prove to be just the ticket to make the venerable 45
ACP one of the most flexible pistols on the market, as it approaches its
one hundreth birthday. Fuller states there are three ways to improve stopping
power: increase muzzle energy; increase bullet diameter; and move the penetration
to 8.4 to 12.4 inches. Manipulating these three factors, is what makes
some rounds superior to others in any given caliber. The new .45/400 Corbon
duo has tremendous flexibility to work the Fuller Formula to its fullest,
using bullets from 135 grains to 300 grains!